"Dream - The candidate for vice president (cawapres) number 2, Gibran Rakabuming Raka, asked the vice presidential candidate number 1, Muhaimin Iskandar (Cak Imin), about SGIE in the 2024 cawapres debate. However, Cak Imin admitted that he did not understand the question and asked back about the meaning of SGIE."

Gibran initially conveyed that Cak Imin would understand very well the issues that would be asked of him. He asked Cak Imin about the efforts to raise Indonesia's ranking in SGIE. "Because Gus Muhaimin is the Chairman of PKB, I am very confident that Gus Muhaimin understands this issue very well. What are Gus Muhaimin's steps to raise Indonesia's ranking in SGIE?," said Gibran.

"To be honest, I don’t understand SGIE, what is SGIE?" asked Cak Imin. However, when Gibran was about to answer, the moderator reminded that if there were no further statements from Cak Imin, the answering time would be immediately over. Cak Imin also admitted that it was okay."

"It's okay, I've never heard of the term SGIE," said Cak Imin. When answering, Cak Imin was also interrupted. It was Gibran's turn to explain the question in question."

Cak Imin then answered and spoke about Indonesia's potential as a country with the largest Muslim population. "Indeed, this question is very important because Indonesia, with the largest number of Muslims in the world, is not only a market for the Islamic economy, a halal tourism market, and an Islamic banking market. But it also has the potential to become the world's center for the Islamic economy; our position below requires important steps," he said.