Dream - Indonesian Vice President for the periods of 2004-2009 and 2014-2019, Jusuf Kalla (JK), assessed that the issue discussed in the Third Presidential Debate 2024 regarding the purchase of main weapon systems (alutsista) focuses heavily on its price. According to JK, the price of purchasing used aircraft that are known to be 25 years old is excessively high. He stated that the previous government also purchased used alutsista but at a much cheaper price compared to the current situation.

He said, a used aircraft unit aged 25 years is priced at Rp1 trillion. "Actually, it's not just used, how much is the price for used? That's a different thing. If this is the average price of Rp1 trillion for one aircraft, an aircraft that is 25 years old," he said.

In the purchase of an aircraft, according to the Vice President who has been a partner of two different presidents, the government will measure it from the perspective of age and flight hours. "If it's a new purchase, then it will definitely have new technology. Besides that, how many flight hours does it have, there are regulations for flying aircraft, that's what matters," he said.

"We use our debts for productive activities, don't use debts for non-productive activities. For example, using debt to buy used military equipment by the Ministry of Defense is not something appropriate. Instead, we should do the opposite," said Anies in a debate at Istora Senayan, Jakarta, Sunday, January 7, 2024."