Initially, Ganjar Pranowo asked about Anies, who had previously served as the Governor of DKI Jakarta, where Jakarta was still struggling with traffic jams, pollution, and other issues. Ganjar then asked Anies what if the capital city were to be moved to IKN? Anies stated that if Jakarta still has problems, then those should not be abandoned. Instead, they should be resolved.

Anies answered, this is an example of a legal product that did not go through a complete public dialogue process. "Thus, those who are critical are considered opposition, those who are pro are considered pro-government because there is no comprehensive discussion process that provides space for the public," said Anies.